14. Directorial duties for ‘Sea Patrol’ have been shared between two directors each series. Can you describe the logistics of this when shooting a drama completely out of order?
The shooting of Sea Patrol is dictated by the availability of the Navy Patrol Boat. The Navy gave us roughly 40 days at sea each season. Obviously we needed to choose the best weather window in FNQ and it is September to November each year. Given we never know exactly what we could actually achieve each day at sea, all we could do is schedule all the ‘at sea’ material first and get what we could. Then, figure out how to get the stuff we missed out on.
All the directors agreed this was a very pragmatic way to work and went out each day and gave it their best shot. As the saying goes ‘Some days we ate the bear, other days the bear ate us’. That’s okay. Of course the directors needed to be very experienced and be able to say exactly what shots they wanted for every sequence and do this literally months before they shot the sequence. Amazing ability really. All credit to them. So to complete, we’d fly down to the Gold Coast and shoot all our locations and our various sets and of course all the interiors of the Hammersley (sets built exactly to match) to make up all the missing parts of the jigsaw puzzle.
15. Many contemporary TV dramas seem to use arrangements of popular music to back their shows. What are the reasons for choosing to use all original music in ‘Sea Patrol’?
We felt that Sea Patrol deserved an original score so Les Gock, his son Adam Gock and Dinesh Wicks wrote every note of music you hear, specifically for each scene. What a job! And how well did they do it? Because a song is just a song.
16. How can the Australian Government and/or Australian TV industry best (and most sustainably) assist shows like ‘Sea Patrol’ to continue beyond 65 episodes? What’s the most workable solution to the current Producer Tax Offset situation?
It’s a dilemma really, as the Tax Offset has become a penalty for success. For whatever reason the previous government put a proviso in the original legislation limiting the payment of the 20% rebate up to a total of 65 episodes. Perhaps they didn’t want to extend an open-ended government subsidy to a commercial business like a network. Perhaps they were being democratic – spreading the funds around. Perhaps they thought that if a network really wanted to continue, then they would pay the 20% foregone after 65 episodes. Well, whatever the reason it seems that networks , having received a subsidy (because that’s what it is), decided that when it goes it goes – it’s over.
We respect all these various positions, but as we said, we’ve paid the price of success (i.e. to get past 65 episodes) by being cancelled. Perhaps the 65 episode cap should be lifted? Of course other producers are thrilled that Sea Patrol is over – more for them. That’s showbiz!
17. The way in which you have produced ‘Sea Patrol’ seems to be unprecedented for Australian television. Have you been approached by others in the industry for advice about achieving such a feat? How realistic do you think it is that other producers (or yourselves!) will take on a similarly huge task in the future? From a production point of view, what do you hope will be the ‘Sea Patrol’ legacy?
No, we haven’t been approached by others. There’s not a lot of sharing amongst producers – just ruthless competition. Anyway, who would be that crazy?! We tend not to look backwards, so from a legacy point of view we just mark it on the board with a tick and move on. There’s a saying that ‘You’re only as good as your last picture’. Not true. We’re only as good as our next picture!
18. While it must be extraordinarily sad to say goodbye to ‘Sea Patrol’ is there any part of you that is relieved at being off this roller-coaster? What won’t you miss about producing this show?
While we are sad that the ride is over, of course we’re also relieved. Not having to wake at dawn or in the middle of the night worrying about everyone’s safety at the morning’s shoot. It’s more than a roller-coaster (of just a few minutes duration); it’s been a five-year marathon. So, frankly, it’s sensible to stop and catch our breath.
19. What do you consider your proudest achievement in relation to a particular aspect of your ‘Sea Patrol’ journey?
Just making it – all 68 episodes. It was beyond difficult.
20. Sea Patrol came at a time when Australian drama wasn’t doing too well. Blue Heelers had just finished a great 12 year run, the axe was swinging for McLeods Daughters and All Saints had to do a major revamp just to keep viewers interested. Now after about 4-5 years, many productions that premiered around 2007/ 2008 are starting to disappear, or have unknown futures. What do you attribute this to? The ease (via the Internet and DVD) with which audiences are now exposed to international product? Are viewers becoming more demanding and/or fickle – wanting more and different content quickly? How has the contemporary, convergent media environment changed the way that Networks deal with producers such as yourselves? Do you have to work differently to how you did 10 or 20 years ago?
Big question, no simple, trite answers. But let’s start with truisms. (1)Making television drama is hard and most fail. Yes, fail. (2)Like it or not, with a 100 channel (200-500!!) universe there’s going to be more competition for the attention of viewers. This means the power of the big three networks is being undercut. (3)Not only are there more channels, there are more modes of distribution (DVD/VOD/IPTV/Hulu, etc. etc.). People are time poor and want/expect instant gratification. Young demos want to see what they want to see when they want to see it – like, now! They don’t want to live by someone else’s schedule. Everyone – networks and producers alike – is struggling in this hurricane of change. All we can do is keep running.
21. Where will you be when “One Perfect Day” goes to air? Who will you be with?
We’ll be at home, feet up, glass of good red wine in hand – just the two of us ‘alone’ and quietly happy. P.S. We’ve seen the episode at least 8 times already.
22. The final episode gives us an idea of where the crew are now. What sort of discussion was had about this? How easy or hard was it to determine the future of these characters? Were other ideas thrown around of how to close the show or pay tribute to the crew? Did the cast find out the path you’d chosen for their characters before seeing the episode?
We made these decisions alone and nobody knew until they saw the episode. The choices we made just felt right for the characters we created way back when.
23. What might have happened to our crew in Season 6? What areas in the life of the RAN would you liked to have explored in further seasons? Will any of your planned ideas for Series 6 ever be incorporated into future projects i.e. Do you keep character developments / storylines ‘on the shelf’ for use at a later date?
No, all those ideas are unique to Sea Patrol and its characters and we’d never ever use them elsewhere. As to what might have been? Tomorrow is a mystery until the sun rises.
24. After 5 years, do you have any regrets? A character you wished to see? A storyline you didn’t cover, or any other regret?
We try not to regret anything. Life is a journey, so we always look forward not backward. We’ve loved every minute. Sea Patrol has been a joy to make, and one made all the more joyful by connecting with our fans. Thanks for that. Tribute to Clint Rolfe as Webmaster for running the best fan site ever.
25. As a fan it has been fantastic to hear behind-the-scenes stories, read interviews and get news directly from the producers. Will you offer these exclusives to the online fan community with your next venture?
Yes, we expect so. The whole relationship with an unofficial fan site was a ‘learn as you go’ experience. Frankly at the beginning, given its unofficial birth, both ourselves and Nine (who, as the broadcaster, have their own large website) were a bit leery. But through the good work and sensible communications with Clint Rolfe, we were able to build a trusting relationship – and from that access increased and the fans got their reward for their support and patience. Like all relationships, if they’re founded on trust, they can build and grow.
26.What are your favourite TV shows? Do you watch a lot of drama, or other types of programming?
Believe it or not, we try to see everything. Nowadays that’s not quite possible but Foxtel’s IQ sure helps. Whilst we’ve studied most dramas including Australian drama, we don’t tend to watch them a lot (Downton Abbey – new Upstairs Downstairs – excepted). We tend to relax with variety/talk (Graham Norton, or believe it or not), reality (all the Housewives of, Bethany, Jerseylicious, Jersey Shore, Gypsy Weddings, Grand Designs, Man v Wild), cooking, real estate, etc. But not the shiny floor dancing, singing, skating shows.
However, broadly speaking, if a show is a hit we’ll catch it and try to learn from it. Basically we’re interested in people and how they interact. We’re keen students of human nature.
27. What is next for the McElroy team?
First a visit to LA to meet our first grandchild due late September! As for projects – it’s all top secret. But we’re very excited about one particular show… In some ways its going back (?) or should we say referencing, some of our earlier successes. Enough said. But boy, if we get to make it, it could be a big hit. We’re feeling very good about it. Fingers crossed.
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